Yes – a limited liability partnership (LLP) can claim R&D tax credits. Through special pass-through rules, an LLP that engages in qualified research can effectively harness the federal R&D tax credit just like a corporation, allowing its partners to benefit directly from these tax savings.
Over $10 billion in R&D tax credits are claimed annually by U.S. businesses. Yet many partnerships still wonder if they can tap into this lucrative incentive. The answer is yes, and it’s now more accessible than ever for LLPs. Below is what you’ll learn:
- 🚀 Eligibility Unveiled: Why LLPs are eligible for the federal R&D credit (and how recent tax law changes opened the door for small businesses to benefit).
- ⚙️ How to Claim: The step-by-step process for an LLP to calculate, document, and claim R&D credits – including how credits flow through to partners and even offset payroll taxes for startups.
- 🌎 Federal vs State: A breakdown of the federal R&D credit versus state-level programs in innovation hotspots like California, New York, and Texas (and the unique rules in each).
- 📊 Pros, Cons & Pitfalls: An expert analysis of the advantages and drawbacks of claiming R&D credits as an LLP – with a quick-hit pros and cons table and common mistakes to avoid.
- 📚 Real Cases & FAQs: Insights from court rulings that highlight do’s and don’ts, plus a quick FAQ addressing common questions (from AMT impacts to documentation best practices).
What Is the R&D Tax Credit, and Can an LLP Qualify?
The Research and Development (R&D) Tax Credit – formally known as the Credit for Increasing Research Activities (IRC Section 41) – is a dollar-for-dollar reduction in tax liability intended to reward businesses for investing in innovation. It has been a fixture of the U.S. tax code since 1981, encouraging companies to develop new or improved products, processes, and technologies.
Crucially, this credit isn’t just for big corporations. Any business entity, including pass-through entities like partnerships, S-corporations, LLCs, and LLPs, can potentially qualify as long as they perform qualifying R&D activities.
For an LLP, which is treated as a partnership for tax purposes, claiming the R&D credit is absolutely possible. In practice, the LLP itself calculates the credit at the partnership level (much as a corporation would), but because the LLP doesn’t pay income tax directly, the credit is distributed to its partners. Each partner can then use their share of the credit to offset their own federal tax liabilities. In other words, an LLP generates the R&D credit through its activities, and the benefit flows through to the individuals or companies that are partners.
Historically, many small businesses – including partnerships – struggled to utilize the R&D credit due to tax law restrictions. For example, prior to 2016, the R&D credit generally couldn’t offset the Alternative Minimum Tax (AMT) for individuals. This was a problem because successful innovators often found themselves subject to AMT, effectively nullifying the credit’s benefit. However, Congress intervened: the Protecting Americans from Tax Hikes (PATH) Act of 2015 made the R&D credit permanent and, starting in 2016, allowed “eligible small businesses” (averaging ≤$50 million in gross receipts) to use the credit against AMT. This change was a game-changer for partnerships, meaning that partners in an LLP with under $50 million in revenues could finally use the credit to reduce their taxes even if they were in AMT. Additionally, the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act (TCJA) of 2017 eliminated the corporate AMT and cut the corporate tax rate, which in effect increased the net value of the R&D credit (because the required add-back of the credit to income under IRC §280C became smaller with a lower tax rate). All these shifts firmly opened the door for LLPs of all sizes to claim R&D credits and actually realize the savings.
Bottom line: Yes, LLPs can claim R&D tax credits. If your partnership is engaging in qualified research, you are entitled to the same federal credit that a C-corporation or any other business can claim. The key is understanding how to qualify your activities and how the credit flows through to your partners – which we’ll explore in depth below.
Why Claim R&D Credits? (Benefits for LLPs and Their Partners)
Claiming the R&D credit can be highly rewarding for an LLP and its partners. Here’s why this credit matters:
- Dollar-for-Dollar Tax Savings: Unlike a deduction (which only reduces taxable income), a credit directly reduces taxes owed. Every dollar of R&D credit is a dollar less in tax. For profitable LLPs, this means immediate cash savings. For instance, if an LLP spends significant money on developing new technology, the credit (often amounting to roughly 5–10% of qualified R&D spending) can directly cut the partners’ tax bills, freeing up cash to reinvest in the business.
- Incentive to Innovate: The credit essentially rewards innovation. It reduces the effective cost of R&D projects. An LLP focused on designing new products, improving manufacturing processes, or writing cutting-edge software can undertake more ambitious projects knowing that a portion of the costs will be offset by tax credits. This encourages a culture of innovation within the firm – a competitive advantage in many industries.
- Benefit Even Without Taxable Income: A big advantage for startup or early-stage LLPs is that you don’t need to be currently profitable to benefit. Thanks to provisions for qualified small businesses, an LLP with little to no income (and thus no income tax to offset) can opt to use the R&D credit against payroll taxes (we’ll explain how shortly). This means even pre-revenue firms can get a cash flow benefit from the credit, effectively turning R&D efforts into immediate funding.
- Enhances Partner Value: For the partners of an LLP, the R&D credit increases the after-tax return on their investment in the partnership. If you’re a partner in a tech or engineering LLP, the credit flowing through can significantly lower your personal tax due on income from the partnership. It’s an incentive for partners to support high-risk, high-reward research projects, since success comes with a tax break attached.
- Federal and State Double Benefits: Many states offer their own R&D credits or incentives. By claiming the federal credit and any applicable state credits, an LLP can “double-dip” on incentives (in a legal way). For example, an R&D-intensive partnership in California can reduce its federal tax and also get a credit against California state tax. This stacking of credits can substantially improve the project’s ROI (return on investment) from a tax perspective.
- Permanent and Reliable: After decades of temporary renewals, the R&D credit is now a permanent feature of the tax code. LLPs can factor these credits into long-term planning with confidence that they won’t disappear. Moreover, government agencies like the IRS and Treasury actively support these incentives as good policy – encouraging domestic research and high-tech jobs – which means the credit is here to stay and often even enhanced over time for small businesses.
In short, for an LLP engaged in any kind of research or product development, the R&D tax credit is a cornerstone incentive. It helps mitigate the financial risk of innovation, provides immediate and future tax relief, and signals to stakeholders (investors, employees, clients) that the partnership is leveraging all available resources to push the envelope in its field.
How Can an LLP Claim the R&D Tax Credit? (Step-by-Step Guide)
Successfully claiming the R&D credit as an LLP involves a combination of meeting the IRS’s qualifications for R&D activities and navigating the tax filing process for a partnership. Let’s break it down step by step.
1. Identify Qualified Research Activities
First, the partnership must determine which of its activities (and expenses) meet the definition of “qualified research” under the tax law. Not every engineering effort or software project will qualify – the IRS has a specific Four-Part Test for R&D credit eligibility:
- Permitted Purpose (New or Improved Business Component): The research must aim to create a new or improved business component – which can be a product, process, technique, formula, invention, or software – with a goal of improving its function, performance, quality, or reliability. In other words, the project should be intended to result in something novel or better than what came before, related to the business of the LLP.
- Technological in Nature: The activity must rely on the hard sciences (like engineering, physics, chemistry, biology, or computer science). This means the development or experimentation is rooted in principles of science or engineering, not in social sciences, arts, or market research. For example, designing a new chemical formula or developing an advanced machine-learning algorithm could qualify; researching consumer preferences or aesthetic design changes would not.
- Elimination of Uncertainty: The research is conducted to resolve technical uncertainty about the development or improvement of the business component. Essentially, at the outset the partnership must face uncertainty about whether something is possible or how to achieve it (e.g., “Can we develop this process to meet these specs?” or “What’s the most effective design to solve this technical problem?”). If you already know the outcome or are using established methods, it’s not qualified research. The key is that there’s an uncertainty that requires technical investigation to eliminate.
- Process of Experimentation: There must be a process of experimentation – a systematic approach of trial and error, testing different ideas or alternatives to overcome the uncertainty. This usually involves evaluating one or more alternatives, prototyping, modeling, simulation, or other scientific methods. If the partnership simply adopts an off-the-shelf solution or follows routine engineering standards without iterative testing, it fails this part of the test.
All four criteria must be met for work to be considered qualified research. Certain activities are explicitly excluded as well (even if they meet the above tests), such as research after commercial production has begun, quality control testing, efficiency surveys or market research, and research in the social sciences or arts. Also, if the research is funded by a third party (for example, a client contracts the LLP and guarantees payment regardless of outcome), the credit might belong to the funder, not the LLP – so the partnership must bear some financial risk for the R&D to claim the credit.
Tip: Many LLPs in fields like software development, engineering, architecture, biotech, and manufacturing discover that they have qualifying projects once they examine them closely. A good practice is to conduct internal surveys or interviews with project leaders to identify which projects involved a true experimental process and technological uncertainty. Keep a list of candidate projects and the uncertainties tackled – this will be gold when documenting your credit claim.
2. Track and Document R&D Expenses
Once qualifying activities are identified, the LLP needs to quantify the qualified research expenses (QREs) associated with those activities. QREs generally fall into three buckets:
- Wages: Employee wages for time spent on qualified R&D activities. In a partnership context, this includes the portion of W-2 wages paid to staff (or wages allocated to partners in some equivalent manner) who directly perform R&D, as well as those who directly supervise or directly support the R&D work. Notably, for partners who are individuals, there is a special rule: a partner’s net self-employment income from the partnership (their share of partnership profits) can count as “qualifying wages” to the extent they themselves worked on R&D projects. This way, even though partners don’t receive a salary or W-2 from the partnership, the law treats their earnings from the firm as wage QREs proportional to their R&D involvement. (This point is nuanced – currently under some dispute in courts regarding how much can be counted – but the intent is to not penalize self-employed owners who are working on R&D.)
- Supplies: The cost of materials and supplies used in the conduct of R&D. This can include prototypes, laboratory reagents, components that get used up during experiments, etc. It does not include capital items or general administrative supplies, but it does include tangible materials used in building and testing prototypes or pilot models. For example, if an LLP is developing a prototype device, the raw materials and parts consumed in building and testing that prototype are QREs. (Depreciable equipment itself isn’t a QRE, but if you have to, say, 3D-print an experimental component, the printing materials would count as supplies.)
- Contract Research: Payments to third-party contractors for conducting qualified research on the partnership’s behalf. If you hire an outside engineering firm or independent research lab to help with a project, you can include 65% of those contract costs as QREs (the tax law assumes not all third-party costs are for actual research work or that some profit markup is included, so it limits the eligible portion to 65%). Important caveat: if you contract out, ensure that the contract is structured so that your partnership bears the risk of the research. If the contractor guarantees a result or you only pay upon success, the IRS might consider the research “funded” (meaning they took the risk) and deny your credit. Ideally, you pay the contractor for their effort, not outcome, so that your LLP retains the risk and reward of the R&D.
Additionally, certain cloud computing and software costs used in development can qualify (IRS regulations now allow many cloud hosting costs to be treated as QREs if used for R&D activities). Payments to universities or research consortia for basic research might also qualify for a special more generous credit (though that scenario is more typical for corporations, it can apply if an LLP is funding university research).
It’s essential for an LLP to maintain contemporaneous documentation linking these expenses to the qualified research activities. Timesheets or project time tracking for employees are extremely helpful – e.g., if engineers log hours to Project X (which we’ve identified as qualified R&D), gather those logs to calculate wages attributable. Keep project notes, design documents, test plans, trial results, source code repositories with commit logs – anything that shows the iterative, experimental nature of the work. This documentation is what substantiates the credit if the IRS or state ever audits the claim.
To emphasize the importance: in a recent court case, an engineering firm lost its entire R&D credit claim (and even had to pay penalties) because it couldn’t produce detailed evidence that its activities met the process of experimentation standard. They had treated routine design work as R&D without showing the iterations and uncertainties resolved. That fate can be avoided with good record-keeping. Essentially, you want to be able to tell the story of each R&D project: what uncertainty did we tackle, and how did we systematically solve it?
3. Calculate the Credit
After identifying QREs, the LLP needs to calculate how much credit those expenses generate. The federal R&D credit calculation offers a couple of methods, but most businesses use one of two approaches:
- Regular Credit Method: This is the classic method: generally, 20% of the current year’s QREs above a base amount. The “base amount” is determined by a formula tied to the firm’s historical R&D spending and gross receipts (intended to represent the business’s R&D intensity in the past, so only increases earn the credit). In simplified terms, if your LLP has significantly increased research spending over a base level, you get a credit equal to 20% of that increase. However, the calculation can be a bit complex and often the base is derived from the 1980s for established companies or a fixed ratio for new companies, which can sometimes limit the credit.
- Alternative Simplified Credit (ASC) Method: This simpler method provides a credit equal to 14% of the current year QREs above 50% of the average QREs for the prior three years. If you had no QREs in any of the prior three years, the credit is 6% of current-year QREs. Many small and mid-size companies prefer the ASC because it’s more straightforward and doesn’t require digging up old data from the 80s or calculating a fixed-base percentage. It basically rewards you for increasing R&D compared to your recent past. New startups often use ASC by default (since they may not have a base period at all).
Whichever method is chosen, in practice the credit typically equates to somewhere around 5% to 10% of the total current-year R&D spending for a growing company. (Because even under ASC, you’re only getting a fraction of the spend as credit.) For example, suppose an LLP spent $500,000 on qualifying R&D in the current year and had minimal R&D in prior years – it might end up with roughly a $50,000 credit under ASC. If the partnership had steady R&D spending historically, the credit might be smaller proportionally because only the “excess” qualifies.
The calculation is done on IRS Form 6765 (Credit for Increasing Research Activities). This form has sections for each method (you choose either regular or ASC) and guides you through computing the QREs, base amounts, and resulting credit. The LLP will fill out Form 6765 as part of its annual tax return prep, attaching it to the Form 1065 partnership return. This is the technical step where all that data gathering meets number crunching. Many companies run calculations under both methods to see which yields a better credit and then choose the optimal one each year.
4. File the Credit with the Partnership Return
Once the credit amount is computed, the LLP claims it on its tax return. Because an LLP is a pass-through entity, the partnership itself doesn’t have an income tax liability to offset (unlike a corporation). Instead, the credit will be allocated to the partners. Here’s how that works:
- The Form 1065 (U.S. Return of Partnership Income) will include the R&D credit claim. Typically, Form 6765 is attached to show the computation, and the partnership reports the credit as part of its general business credits on Schedule K of the 1065.
- Each partner’s share of the credit is reported on their Schedule K-1 (Partner’s Share of Income, Deductions, Credits, etc.). There is a specific line on the K-1 for credits (with code numbers to identify the type – the R&D credit is one of the general business credits). The default allocation is according to each partner’s profit-sharing percentage in the partnership, unless your partnership agreement has a special allocation clause for the credit. (Any special allocation must have “substantial economic effect” under Section 704(b) rules – meaning you can’t just give all the credit to one partner unless that reflects economic reality, like perhaps that partner funded most of the R&D costs or bore the risk. In most small LLPs, credits are allocated simply in proportion to ownership.)
- The partners, upon receiving their K-1s, will use Form 3800 (General Business Credit) on their own tax returns to actually claim the credit against their tax. For example, if a partner is an individual filing Form 1040, they’ll include the credit on Form 3800 and it will flow to their 1040 to reduce taxes owed. If a partner is a corporation, it will claim the credit on its corporate return via Form 3800 as well. The credit then reduces their tax liability dollar-for-dollar, subject to some limitations (more on that in a moment).
A crucial limitation to note here is IRC Section 41(g)’s rule for pass-through entities: a partner can only use the R&D credit to offset the tax attributable to their share of income from the entity that generated the credit. In plainer terms, if an individual is a partner in an LLP and that LLP passes through a $50,000 R&D credit to them, that partner’s use of the credit is capped by the tax they owe on the income they received from the partnership’s activities. They generally cannot use the credit to wipe out tax on unrelated income (like salary from a day job or other investments) beyond the portion of tax attributable to the partnership income. Any credit that exceeds that amount becomes an unused credit for that partner – which they can carry forward to use in future years (when perhaps the partnership income grows, yielding more tax to offset). This rule prevents someone from investing in a partnership just to use the credits against other income arbitrarily.
Additionally, claiming the credit triggers another tax consideration: the Section 280C adjustment. The IRS doesn’t allow a double tax benefit on the same dollars of expense – you can’t deduct R&D costs and take a credit on those same costs without a catch. So, by default, if you claim the credit, you must reduce your deductible R&D expenses by the amount of the credit claimed. (This means the partnership’s taxable income would be slightly higher, which in turn affects the income allocated to partners.) However, there is an alternative: you can make an election on Form 6765 to take a reduced credit in lieu of reducing the deduction. The reduced credit is simply the credit amount minus the tax rate times those expenses. In practice, since the TCJA lowered the corporate tax rate to 21%, the reduced credit is 79% of the calculated credit (100% – 21% = 79%). Taxpayers often choose this so they don’t have to adjust the deductions. The net effect to partners is usually better with the reduced credit election when individual tax rates are higher than corporate rates. Regardless of approach, one should remember to handle this – failing to either reduce the deductions or elect the reduced credit is a mistake (it results in “double dipping,” which the IRS will disallow if caught).
5. Special Provision: Payroll Tax Offset for Startups
One of the most LLP-friendly provisions in recent years is the ability for startups and small R&D-intensive businesses to get a benefit from the R&D credit even if they owe no income tax. If your LLP is pre-profit (perhaps a biotech research partnership or a tech startup in development mode), you can elect to use the federal R&D credit to offset payroll taxes (specifically, the employer’s share of Social Security tax) instead of income taxes.
To qualify, the LLP must be a Qualified Small Business (QSB): generally, this means having less than $5 million in gross receipts in the credit year and no gross receipts more than five years ago. In practice, that typically means a company in its first five years of operation, with minimal or no revenue as it ramps up R&D.
Such an LLP can elect on its tax return to apply up to $250,000 per year of its R&D credit against its payroll tax liability. This election is made on Form 6765 (Section D of the form). Once the IRS processes the return, the partnership then files Form 8974 with its quarterly payroll tax returns (Form 941) to actually claim the credit and reduce the payroll tax deposits. Essentially, the partnership is getting a refund or reduction of payroll taxes equal to the credit, up to that $250k annual cap.
This is incredibly beneficial: it turns what would have been a carryforward credit (since there’s no income tax to offset) into immediate cash flow. For example, an R&D-heavy biotech LLP with no products on the market yet could generate a $200,000 R&D credit and use it to fully cover $200,000 of its payroll tax bills for the year – a direct cash savings that can be plowed back into research. And this can be done each year for up to five years (for a potential total of $1.25 million in payroll tax relief) as long as the company remains under the $5 million gross receipts threshold.
It’s important to note: the payroll tax offset must be elected on a timely-filed original return for the year of the credit. You cannot go back later via an amended return and retroactively choose to apply it to payroll taxes. Many startups miss this window, which is a costly mistake. So if your LLP might benefit, plan ahead during tax filing season and make that election with your original 1065 return.
Between the pass-through allocation and the payroll tax offset, LLPs have flexible ways to monetize the R&D credit whether they are making money yet or not. And remember, any credit not used (because it exceeds current tax or payroll tax limits) will carry forward to future tax years (up to 20 years for federal credits – and often a different number of years for states). In essence, the credit can be a near-term benefit or a deferred benefit, but either way it rewards your R&D spend.
Federal vs. State R&D Credits: Where Can an LLP Claim Them?
So far, we’ve focused on the federal R&D tax credit. But many U.S. states, recognizing the same need to spur innovation, offer their own R&D tax credit programs. While the federal credit is available for qualifying research conducted anywhere in the U.S., state R&D credits apply to research activities conducted within a specific state and typically offset that state’s income or franchise taxes.
As of 2025, 37 states provide some form of R&D tax credit or incentive, giving businesses additional opportunities to reduce tax liability. Each state has its own twist: different credit percentages, qualification rules, and limitations. For an LLP operating (and innovating) in a particular state, this can mean extra tax savings at the state level. Importantly, LLPs, being pass-through entities, generally claim state credits in a similar way as federal – the credit flows through to partners to offset their state income tax, or in some cases it might offset an entity-level tax like a state franchise tax.
Let’s look at a few high-profile examples and nuances in California, New York, and Texas – states often at the forefront of R&D activity:
California: Generous Credits with Unique Rules
California has one of the most significant state R&D tax credits in the country, designed to keep tech and research companies thriving in the Golden State. Key features:
- Credit Amount: California offers a credit equal to 15% of qualified research expenses that exceed a base amount (similar in spirit to the federal credit’s incremental approach), plus a 24% credit for certain basic research payments to universities or research organizations. The 15% rate is higher than the effective federal rate for most companies, making the CA credit particularly valuable for in-state R&D spending.
- Federal Conformity: The definition of qualified research in CA largely follows the federal definition (same four-part test and eligible expenses), which makes it easier to compute if you’ve done the federal calculation. However, California does not allow the federal Alternative Simplified Credit method. Instead, it offers an Alternative Incremental Credit (AIC) with its own fixed-base percentages (once elected, switching requires state approval). In practice, many companies stick to the regular California method (15% of excess QREs) unless they have a compelling reason to use the AIC. Also notable: California doesn’t conform to some of the newer federal rules like the 280C automatic reduced credit – but it requires similar add-back adjustments. And California continues to allow 100% deduction of R&D expenses even while federal law currently requires amortization (this difference can affect timing of income but not the credit).
- Usage: The CA R&D credit can offset the state income/franchise tax. For an LLP, since it doesn’t directly pay state income tax (apart from a minimum $800 franchise tax or an LLC gross receipts fee), the credit flows to partners to use against their California personal or corporate income tax. One nuance: S-corporations in CA can only apply 1/3 of the credit against the 1.5% entity-level franchise tax they pay; the remaining 2/3 passes through to shareholders. Partnerships and LLPs typically have no entity-level tax beyond the minimum fees, so effectively the entire credit is utilized by the partners. Note also that California’s credit cannot reduce certain minimum taxes (you can’t use it to go below the $800 franchise tax minimum or below the state’s alternative minimum tax for individuals), so similar to federal pre-2016, if a partner is paying California AMT, the credit might get deferred.
- Carryforward: California’s R&D credit is non-refundable (the state won’t send you a check if the credit exceeds your tax), but any unused amount can be carried forward indefinitely until fully used. This is one of the most generous carryforward provisions in the U.S. Most states have 5, 10, or 20-year limits; California says you can carry it forward forever. This is great for cyclical businesses or ones that incur large credits in build-up years and only later have sufficient tax to use them.
In summary, California’s program greatly boosts the value of R&D work done within the state – an LLP performing research in Silicon Valley, for instance, could get a 15% state credit on top of the ~5-10% federal credit. The administrative process involves filing FTB Form 3523 with the California return, which mirrors much of the federal Form 6765. Given the high stakes (a potentially large credit), it’s worth the effort for any LLP with substantial R&D in California.
New York: Targeted Credits for Innovation
New York State doesn’t have a single broad-based R&D credit available to all companies by default (unlike CA or the federal credit). Instead, New York offers targeted incentive programs that include R&D credits as a component:
- Excelsior Jobs Program (R&D Credit Component): Companies that participate in New York’s Excelsior Jobs Program (an economic development program requiring an application and commitment to create jobs/investment in NY) can qualify for an R&D tax credit. The Excelsior R&D credit is effectively a percentage of the company’s federal R&D credit, up to a certain cap, based on research activities in New York. It is refundable – meaning if the credit exceeds your NY tax liability, the state will pay you the difference. However, only businesses admitted into the Excelsior program (often manufacturers, tech companies, etc., that the state wants to incentivize) can get this, so it’s not automatically available to every partnership doing R&D in NY.
- New York Life Sciences R&D Credit: New York launched a specific program to boost the life sciences sector. Companies certified by Empire State Development as a Qualified Life Sciences Company (typically new biotech or life science startups) can receive a credit of 15% of qualified research expenses (or 20% for small companies with fewer than 10 employees) for R&D conducted in New York. This credit is also refundable, and it’s available for up to three consecutive years with a maximum of $500,000 per year. An LLP could qualify if it meets the criteria (being a new life science business in NY and gets the certification). Essentially, if you start a biotech R&D partnership in NY, the state will subsidize 15-20% of your R&D costs via this credit, even if you owe no NY taxes (since they’ll cut a refund check). That’s a significant incentive, although it’s targeted to a specific industry.
Beyond these, New York historically had a Qualified Emerging Technologies Credit (QETC) which provided credits for small tech companies (that program has evolved and some parts rolled into other incentives). Also, New York City has had some credits for biotech and fintech incubators at times. The main point is that in New York, R&D credits tend to be program-based rather than a general entitlement: you often have to apply or be in a particular industry.
For partners in an LLP, any New York credits would pass through to the partners’ NY tax returns. If a credit is refundable (like the life science credit), even an individual partner with no NY tax could get a refund check for their share. If non-refundable, it offsets their NY tax liability and carries forward if unused (NY usually allows carryforwards on its credits for a number of years).
The complexity with New York is higher (in terms of needing pre-certification or being part of special programs), but the benefits can be substantial, especially the refundable aspect which is relatively rare among states.
Texas: Franchise Tax Credit or Sales Tax Exemption
Texas approaches R&D incentives a bit differently because Texas doesn’t levy a personal or corporate income tax. Instead, Texas has a franchise tax (a type of gross receipts/margin tax) on entities, and it offers R&D incentives in two forms:
- Franchise Tax R&D Credit: A business that conducts qualified research in Texas can claim a credit against the Texas franchise tax. The credit is calculated as a percentage of the increase in Texas research expenses over a base amount (somewhat analogous to the federal incremental credit, but the specifics are set by Texas law). The credit percentage in Texas is lower than federal – effectively, it might come out to around 5% of qualifying Texas R&D spend (with some nuances). Importantly, the credit cannot exceed 50% of the franchise tax due for that year. Unused credit can generally be carried forward (Texas allows a long carryforward period, up to 20 years for unused R&D credits). If an LLP is treated as a pass-through for federal income tax, it is still an entity for Texas franchise tax purposes (most LLPs, LLCs, and corporations owe Texas franchise tax if doing business in TX). So an LLP that owes, say, $100k in Texas franchise tax could use its R&D credit to cut up to $50k off that bill.
- Sales Tax Exemption for R&D Equipment: As an alternative to the franchise tax credit, Texas allows companies to elect a sales and use tax exemption on purchases of depreciable tangible personal property directly used in qualified R&D. For example, if your LLP buys lab equipment, computers, or machinery for an R&D project in Texas, you can purchase those items tax-free (saving ~6.25% state sales tax, plus any local sales tax). To use this, the LLP must apply for a Texas R&D sales tax exemption certificate and renew it each year via an Annual Information Report. The catch is you have to choose either the franchise tax credit or the sales tax exemption in a given period – you cannot take both for the same year’s R&D expenditures. Companies will typically choose the one that provides greater benefit. A pre-revenue R&D partnership might have negligible franchise tax (since franchise tax in TX is based on margin or revenue), so they’d opt for the sales tax exemption to save money on equipment. A profitable firm with high franchise tax might favor the credit.
To claim these benefits, there are procedural steps: For the franchise tax credit, relevant schedules (Form 05-178) are filed with the Texas Franchise Tax Report. For the sales tax exemption, the business must file Form AP-234 to get the exemption certificate and then remember to file the annual information report to keep it active.
Texas originally had the R&D franchise credit set to expire in 2026, but recent state legislation extended it (currently through at least the 2030s), showing Texas’s commitment to R&D incentives.
For an LLP operating in Texas, the key is to evaluate which incentive yields more value and ensure compliance with the one you choose. Both effectively lower the cost of doing R&D in Texas – one by reducing state tax on profits, the other by reducing the cost of R&D equipment.
Other States
While we highlighted CA, NY, and TX, many other states also have noteworthy R&D credits:
- Massachusetts offers a regular and an alternative simplified credit, and notably allows certain life sciences R&D credits to be refundable or transferred.
- Illinois provides an R&D credit (currently extended through 2027) equal to 6.5% of qualifying research expenditures over a base, which flows through to owners of pass-throughs.
- Ohio gives a 7% credit on excess R&D spending, but it’s used against the Commercial Activity Tax (and nonrefundable).
- Pennsylvania has an R&D credit that is not only useable against taxes but can be sold or transferred (particularly useful for partnerships if not all partners can use the credit – they can effectively monetize it via sale, with state approval).
- New Jersey and Connecticut have credits that generally piggyback off federal definitions, though NJ’s are often limited to corporations (NJ also has a separate incentive for smaller companies).
- Arizona and Maryland are examples of states that make part of their credit refundable for small businesses, which can benefit startups similar to the federal payroll offset concept.
- Florida currently has a limited R&D credit pool with an application process and is focused on certain target industries.
The landscape is diverse, but the upshot is: if your LLP is conducting R&D in any state, check that state’s tax code for credits. It could mean thousands or even millions of dollars in state tax savings or refunds over time. Just remember that each state’s credit is its own creature – separate forms, separate rules, and often separate limitations apply.
Pro Tip: Consider the location of your R&D when planning projects or even when deciding where to form your partnership or open a lab. Tax incentives shouldn’t drive business decisions entirely, but they are part of the cost equation. For instance, a given research project might be 15% cheaper in California than in a state with no R&D credit, after tax effects, because of California’s credit (assuming you can use it). Similarly, states vying for biotech companies may provide credits that effectively subsidize your R&D payroll. Savvy businesses factor these into their strategy.
Pros and Cons of an LLP Claiming R&D Tax Credits
Like any tax strategy, utilizing R&D credits as an LLP comes with both advantages and challenges. The following table summarizes the key pros and cons:
| Pros | Cons |
|---|---|
| Significant Tax Savings – Reduces federal (and often state) tax liability dollar-for-dollar, directly increasing cash flow and freeing up funds for reinvestment. Partners enjoy lower personal tax on pass-through income. Encourages Innovation – Acts as a financial incentive to pursue ambitious R&D projects that could drive the LLP’s growth or improve its competitive edge. The credit effectively subsidizes part of the research cost. Broad Eligibility – Available to all entity types (LLPs, LLCs, corporations, etc.) and across industries (tech, manufacturing, agriculture, etc.). Even startup LLPs with no profits can benefit via the payroll tax credit election. | Complex Qualification – Determining what activities and costs qualify can be complicated. The IRS’s four-part test is strict; misunderstanding it can lead to disallowed credits. Thorough documentation and sometimes expert studies are needed, increasing compliance costs. Usage Limitations – For pass-throughs, a partner’s use of the credit is limited to tax on income from the partnership’s R&D activity (per IRC 41(g)). Credits not used immediately are carried forward, which delays benefit. Also, prior to recent law changes, AMT rules limited usage (less of an issue now for small firms). Administrative Burden – Claiming the credit requires extra forms, complex calculations, and careful substantiation. Multi-state filings add another layer. Small firms may need to hire specialists or consultants to do studies and paperwork. Audit Risk – The R&D credit is historically a scrutinized area by tax authorities. Improper claims can lead to audits, potential repayment of credits with interest, and even penalties. (The Phoenix case mentioned shows that without solid evidence, credits can be denied.) |
In weighing these pros and cons, it’s evident that the R&D credit can be extremely beneficial, but it must be pursued carefully. Many LLPs find the benefits far outweigh the costs, especially if they establish good internal processes for tracking R&D. However, going in with eyes open about the compliance effort and limitations ensures there are no surprises down the road.
Three Common Scenarios: How LLPs Utilize R&D Credits
To put theory into practice, let’s examine a few common scenarios and how an LLP can claim or use the R&D credit in each. These illustrate the flexibility and considerations of the credit in real-world contexts.
Scenario 1: Established Profitable LLP (Immediate Tax Offset)
Imagine an LLP that’s been operating for a number of years – for example, a successful engineering consultancy structured as an LLP – which is profitable and consistently invests in developing new design techniques. This year it undertook a big R&D project, resulting in a substantial credit.
| Situation | Established LLP generating taxable profits each year and incurring substantial qualified R&D expenses. |
| Credit Generation | The partnership conducts qualifying research (e.g., innovative engineering designs), tracks $300,000 of QREs, and computes an R&D credit of, say, $25,000 for the year. |
| Credit Usage | The $25,000 credit is claimed on the LLP’s tax return and passed through to the partners (allocated per their ownership share). Each partner uses their share of the credit to directly reduce their U.S. federal income tax on the partnership income. |
| Outcome | Partners see an immediate tax reduction – effectively boosting their after-tax income from the LLP. For instance, if a partner had $100,000 of taxable income from the LLP, the credit might cut their tax by a few thousand dollars, dollar-for-dollar. This rewards the partners for the LLP’s investment in innovation in the same year the investment is made. |
| Key Considerations | The credit can only offset taxes on that partnership income (if a partner had more credit than their tax from LLP income, excess carries forward). Also, the LLP must ensure it’s properly documenting projects to defend that $25k credit in case of an audit. |
In this scenario, the R&D credit operates as intended – a successful, tax-paying partnership gets a break for doing R&D, and the benefit is realized immediately by its owners in the current year.
Scenario 2: Early-Stage Startup LLP with No Taxable Income
Now consider a different case: a biotech research LLP in its third year, still pre-revenue (no taxable income yet). It has five scientist partners working on developing a new drug delivery technology. They spent heavily on research this year, generating a sizable R&D credit, but since the partnership has no profits, normally there’s no income tax to use the credit.
| Situation | A new R&D-focused LLP (in operation <5 years) with little to no gross receipts and no taxable income. Significant R&D expenditures (e.g., lab research salaries and supplies) were incurred, resulting in a federal credit of perhaps $150,000 this year. |
| Credit Generation | The LLP performs qualifying research (drug development experiments), calculates QREs (maybe $1.5 million of costs) and a credit (~$150k). Normally, with no income, this credit would just carry forward. |
| Payroll Tax Election | As a Qualified Small Business, the LLP elects to use $150,000 of its R&D credit against payroll taxes. It files the election with its tax return and then claims the credit on its quarterly payroll filings (Form 941) via Form 8974. |
| Outcome | Over the course of the year, the LLP’s employer Social Security tax obligation is reduced by the $150,000. Essentially, the IRS sends back that money (or the LLP offsets it from payroll deposits), injecting much-needed cash into the business. The credit that would have been unused becomes a source of funding. |
| Key Considerations | The payroll offset cap is $250k per year, which this credit is within. The election had to be made timely. Also, the LLP will not later use that $150k against income taxes (since it was used on payroll). Any credit beyond $250k (if it had one) would carry forward. Documentation is still crucial, as the IRS can audit payroll-credit claims too. |
This scenario shows how even a non-profitable, early-stage partnership can monetize the R&D credit. It turns a tax incentive into real cash flow to sustain R&D efforts when the company most needs it.
Scenario 3: Multi-State LLP with Federal and State Credits
Consider an LLP that does R&D in more than one state – say a software development LLP headquartered in New York with a branch in California (and research teams in both). The partnership spends money on qualifying development activities in both locations.
| Situation | An LLP incurs $400,000 of QREs in California and $200,000 of QREs in New York, for a total of $600,000 qualified spend. It is profitable and has tax liabilities in federal and in those states. |
| Credit Claims | Federally, the LLP calculates its total $600k of QREs and maybe gets around a $50,000 federal credit (using ASC, for example). On top of that, it computes a California R&D credit for the CA research portion (15% of incremental CA QREs – say around $50k CA credit) and, if eligible via a program, a New York credit for the NY portion (perhaps a smaller amount, say $5k, through Excelsior or life science programs). |
| Allocation/Usage | The federal $50k credit is passed to partners to offset federal tax (as usual). The $50k California credit is claimed on the partnership’s CA return and passes through to partners to offset their California state income tax (for those partners who have CA tax liability). The $5k NY credit similarly offsets the partners’ NY state taxes or, if it’s from a refundable program, even yields a refund for those partners. |
| Outcome | The LLP’s innovation efforts are rewarded at multiple levels: partners save on federal taxes, and also on their state taxes in CA and NY. If a partner resides in a different state without personal NY or CA tax, they might not directly use those state credits, but those credits can often be allocated to the partners who do have state tax (or in NY’s case, refundable credits are paid out). The net effect is a larger combined reduction in the cost of R&D across jurisdictions. |
| Key Considerations | Multi-state credits require careful tracking of expenses by state. The LLP had to segregate what research was done in CA vs NY and file separate computations. Each state’s paperwork and qualification rules differ, so compliance is more involved. Also, partners in multiple states might need guidance to claim the credits on their state returns. But in this scenario, the complexity pays off with substantially greater tax savings than just the federal credit alone. |
This scenario highlights the importance of not overlooking state R&D incentives. A partnership working across state lines can reap a patchwork of credits that together appreciably lower the cost of innovation. It does demand more administrative work, but often the additional credits obtained (like California’s sizable credit or a refundable NY credit) make it very worthwhile.
Common Mistakes to Avoid When Claiming R&D Credits
While R&D credits can provide major benefits, there are pitfalls that can trip up taxpayers, especially first-timers. Here are some common mistakes LLPs should be careful to avoid:
- Assuming All Tech Work Qualifies: Not every engineering or software project is eligible R&D. One classic mistake is treating routine improvements or adapting existing products as qualified research. If there’s no true uncertainty or no experimental process (for example, just customizing software for a client’s specifications without any innovation), the IRS will disallow those expenses. Always apply the four-part test rigorously – if you can’t clearly articulate a technological challenge and how you experimented to solve it, it likely isn’t qualified research.
- Poor Documentation & Substantiation: This cannot be overstated – many credit claims are lost upon audit due to lack of documentation. Time and again, companies have had credits denied because they didn’t document what their employees were actually doing in the lab or dev center. Relying on vague project titles or after-the-fact estimates is a mistake. Contemporaneous records (time logs, design drawings, test reports, technical notebooks) are your audit defense. An LLP should implement a system for R&D project accounting and keep detailed project narratives. If challenged, you want to show, for each project, the uncertainties identified and the experiments performed. Without that, as seen in court cases, the IRS can argue the work was routine and deny the credit.
- Missing the Payroll Tax Credit Opportunity: Startups often file tax returns showing losses and simply carry forward the R&D credit, not realizing they could have elected the payroll tax offset. Once the original return is filed without that election, it’s generally too late to go back. This mistake means leaving cash on the table that could’ve financed additional R&D. If your LLP qualifies as a QSB (under $5M receipts and within 5 years of startup), be sure to evaluate the payroll tax election every year – even if you anticipate becoming profitable soon, a dollar today is worth more than a dollar tomorrow for a cash-strapped young company.
- Misallocating the Credit Among Partners: Partnerships need to allocate credits according to IRS rules. A mistake here is trying to give one partner all the credit because, say, they funded most of the R&D, without a proper special allocation in the partnership agreement and supporting economic evidence. Or simply arithmetic errors in splitting credits on K-1s. Improper allocation can be challenged, leading to reallocation (and some partners losing out on credit usage). Always tie the allocation either to the standard profit-sharing ratio or use a valid special allocation that aligns with who bore the economic cost of R&D. Document the rationale in the partnership records.
- Ignoring the Section 41(g) Limitation: As mentioned earlier, a partner can’t use the credit beyond the tax on the partnership’s income. Some taxpayers overlook this, expecting the credit to wipe out all their personal taxes. They then get a rude surprise when their tax software or the IRS limits the credit use. Understand that if your partnership passes out a large credit but the partnership’s taxable income to the partner was small, immediate utilization might be limited. It’s not a lost cause – the unused credit carries forward for that partner – but it’s a mistake not to anticipate this outcome. Planning example: if you have flexibility in recognizing partnership income (maybe via billing timing or other transactions), you might align an income spike with a credit year to maximize usage.
- Double Dipping on Deductions: Failing to account for the required reduction in deductible R&D expenses when claiming the credit can be a misstep. If you take the credit and also deduct 100% of your R&D costs, you’re effectively getting a double benefit, which is not allowed. Tax software typically prompts you to add back the credited expenses (or you elect the reduced credit). But if done manually and carelessly, one might forget to make this adjustment. The IRS can catch it on audit, leading to adjustments or disallowed deductions. It’s safer to elect the reduced credit unless you have a reason not to – that way you’ve automatically complied with 280C without changing your books.
- Overlooking State-Specific Requirements: Another common pitfall is to assume that because you qualified for the federal credit, the same expenses or rules automatically qualify for state credits. In reality, each state can have quirks. Some states require pre-certification or an application before you can claim the credit. Some define QREs slightly differently (a few states disallow certain wages like wages of owners or certain supply costs, for instance). Some states cap the total credit available state-wide, meaning you have to file early or by a deadline to get your piece of the pie. For example, Illinois had a period where its credit lapsed; Connecticut caps the amount a company can claim; and some states like Texas require annual renewals for exemptions. Always read up on the state’s specific rules or consult a state tax expert. Don’t assume one size fits all between federal and state.
- Lack of Expert Guidance: The R&D credit is one of the more complex areas of tax law, straddling both technical tax rules and scientific/engineering concepts. Especially for an LLP claiming it for the first time, consulting with a tax professional or an R&D credit specialist can be invaluable. They can help set up processes to track costs, identify all qualifying activities (you might be surprised what qualifies), and ensure the studies and calculations are done right. They can also help defend the credit if audited. Trying to wing it without understanding nuances – for instance, the recent clarifications on cloud computing costs or the special wage rule for partners – can lead to missed credits or wrongful claims. Investing in proper guidance can pay off in a much larger credit and peace of mind that it’s done correctly.
Lessons from Court Rulings and Tax Law Changes
Over the years, numerous court cases and legislative changes have shaped how the R&D credit is applied. An LLP claiming the credit should be aware of these developments, as they highlight what to do – and what not to do:
- Substantiation is King (Phoenix Design Group v. Commissioner, 2024): In this recent Tax Court case, an engineering firm’s entire R&D credit was denied because they failed to show that their activities met the “process of experimentation” requirement. The firm (Phoenix Design Group) was doing mechanical and electrical design work for building projects. They claimed R&D credits, but the court found that much of their work was routine engineering aimed at code compliance, without clear technological uncertainties or documented experiments. The court noted that merely revising designs or making improvements isn’t enough – you must demonstrate how you confronted uncertainties and tested different approaches. This case highlights the importance of detailed documentation. The takeaway for LLPs: if you claim the credit, be prepared to back it up. Have narratives and evidence for projects showing the trial-and-error, the hypotheses tested, and the technical challenge addressed. Otherwise, you risk the credit being disallowed, as happened here, where even significant projects (designing advanced HVAC systems for a university lab, etc.) were ruled non-qualifying due to lack of proof of a systematic experimental process. This case also reminds us that penalties can apply for overstating credits without reasonable basis – so take documentation seriously.
- Partner Compensation and R&D (Smith v. Commissioner, pending 2025): A case currently before the Tax Court (Smith v. Commissioner) involves partners in an architecture LLP who claimed R&D credits by treating a portion of their partnership income as “wages” for their research services. Under the tax rules, a partner’s allocable share of partnership income can count as a wage expense for the credit if the partner is personally doing R&D. The IRS isn’t disputing that concept, but in this case it argued that the partners took too large a slice of their income as “research wages,” potentially beyond what’s reasonable. They invoked an old rule (Section 174(e) prior to repeal) that R&D expenditures must be “reasonable” to be deductible, suggesting that only the portion of the partner’s income that equates to a reasonable salary for the R&D work should count. This is a nuanced issue, but it’s the first time it’s being litigated. The outcome will likely clarify how partnerships should calculate the partner-wage portion of QREs. For now, LLPs should be prudent: if your partners wear multiple hats (management, bringing in business, AND doing R&D), you can’t attribute all their income to R&D labor. Document the time they spend on R&D versus other duties. Perhaps treat an amount equivalent to an engineer’s salary for their R&D time as the QRE, rather than the partner’s entire profit share. In any case, the existence of this dispute shows that the IRS is paying attention to how pass-throughs handle owner wages in the credit computation.
- Funded Research and Contractual Risk: A common theme in R&D credit litigation is whether the research was funded (and thus ineligible for the performer to claim). The law says if another party funds the research (meaning they pay and bear the risk of loss), the performing company can’t claim the credit – the funder could. In practice, many contracts are not black-and-white. There have been cases involving government contracts, for instance, where the IRS said the research was funded because the company got paid regardless of outcome, but the courts sometimes disagreed if the company had some risk or investment in the project. Recent case outcomes have been mixed but generally emphasize the importance of contract language. For an LLP, the lesson is: if you do research work under contract for someone, try to have terms that don’t guarantee payment for just effort alone. Maybe the contract is milestone-based, or there’s a fixed price that could end up costing you more if the project overruns – those nuances can mean you bore risk. Also, if possible, ensure your partnership retains some rights to the intellectual property or results (instead of giving all rights to the client for a fixed fee). Retaining rights often signals you had skin in the game. One notable case in recent years involved Aeronautical Radio, Inc., where the court allowed the credit because the company had to incur costs beyond what the customer paid – indicating they bore risk. In summary, structure contracts smartly to preserve your credit eligibility.
- Legislative Boosts (PATH Act & TCJA): Not a court ruling, but it’s important to recap the legislative changes that have reshaped the R&D credit landscape. The PATH Act of 2015 made the credit permanent (ending the uncertainty of frequent expirations) and, crucially, introduced the two provisions especially relevant to LLPs: the AMT offset (for businesses ≤$50M gross receipts) and the payroll tax election (for QSBs). These changes directly benefited pass-through entities and startups, turning the credit from something many small companies couldn’t use into something very accessible. Then the TCJA of 2017 eliminated the corporate AMT (making credits usable for corporations without hindrance) and lowered tax rates. The lower corporate rate made the 280C reduced credit more attractive and increased the net credit benefit for many (since previously C-corps lost 35% of the credit to tax in the form of add-back; now it’s only 21%). However, TCJA also included a twist: starting in 2022, businesses must capitalize and amortize R&D expenses over 5 years (15 for foreign research) under Section 174, rather than deducting them immediately. This doesn’t change the credit directly – you can still claim credits on those expenses – but it does affect cash tax positions and makes the credit even more vital to mitigate the hit of amortization. There’s bipartisan support to undo this amortization requirement (as it was not popular), but until that happens, companies need to be aware of it. Essentially, for 2022 onward, you might be paying tax on some of your R&D expense (since you can’t deduct all at once) even while getting the credit. Planning for that (maybe using the credit to help offset the higher taxable income) is wise. The key point: stay updated on tax law changes affecting R&D; Congress has been active in this area and may be again.
- State R&D Credit Legal Developments: While most litigation occurs at the federal level, don’t forget to monitor any state-specific developments if they apply to you. Some states have had legal disputes over their credit rules (for instance, how Massachusetts handled a software company’s R&D credit or how Texas defines qualifying research for the franchise credit, etc.). Also, states may change their laws – e.g., California temporarily suspended the usage of R&D credits for very large companies during a budget crisis (2020-2022, CA disallowed using credits if you had over $5 million in credits available, to raise revenue). These things can come out of left field. Being plugged into state tax news via your CPA or industry groups can ensure an LLP isn’t caught off guard by a sudden change or opportunity.
The overarching message from both courts and lawmakers is: R&D credits are meant to incentivize innovation and are there for the taking, but you must follow the rules closely and back up your claims. Those who do it right – documenting carefully, calculating correctly, and staying within the guidelines – have been able to reap substantial benefits (and often win when challenged). Those who cut corners or misunderstand the requirements have lost out, as evidenced by the disallowed claims in court. By learning from these outcomes, an LLP can navigate the credit with a blend of confidence and caution, maximizing benefits while minimizing risk.
FAQ: R&D Tax Credits for LLPs
Q: Can an LLP claim the R&D tax credit even though it doesn’t pay corporate income tax?
A: Yes. The LLP computes the credit and passes it to partners. Each partner then uses their share to offset their own tax liability (similar to how other partnership tax items flow through).
Q: What forms does an LLP file to claim the R&D credit?
A: The partnership files IRS Form 6765 with its Form 1065 to calculate the credit. It then reports each partner’s share on Schedule K-1. Partners claim it on Form 3800 with their tax returns.
Q: What if the R&D credit is bigger than the taxes owed?
A: Unused federal R&D credits carry forward up to 20 years. They can be used by the partners in future years. (Some states allow carryforwards or even refunds, depending on the program, so check state rules.)
Q: How do partners count their own work as part of the R&D credit?
A: Partners who personally perform R&D can treat a portion of their share of partnership income as “qualified wages.” Essentially, the time they spend on R&D is converted into an equivalent wage expense for credit purposes.
Q: What is a “qualified small business” for the payroll tax credit election?
A: Generally, it’s an entity with < $5 million gross receipts in the credit year and no gross receipts more than 5 years ago. These startups can elect to use the credit to offset employer FICA payroll taxes (up to $250k/year).
Q: Can an LLP amend past returns to claim missed R&D credits?
A: Yes. Federal returns can typically be amended for up to 3 prior years to claim overlooked credits. If an LLP failed to claim credits it was eligible for, it can file amended returns and issue corrected K-1s to partners so they can claim the credit. (The payroll tax election, however, cannot be retroactively made on an amended return – that only works on original filings.)
Q: Do all states offer R&D credits to partnerships?
A: Not all, but many do. If a state has an R&D credit, pass-through entities usually qualify just like corporations. The credit either offsets an entity-level tax (in states like Texas) or flows through to the owners to use against their state income tax. Always check specific state programs and whether any filings are needed to claim them.
Q: Will claiming an R&D credit increase the risk of audit?
A: The R&D credit is a bit more likely to be scrutinized than a regular deduction because of its complex rules. However, thousands of businesses claim it every year. If you maintain solid documentation and follow the guidelines, you shouldn’t fear an audit. It’s wise to be prepared to substantiate your claim, but the credit is an intended benefit – not a red flag – as long as it’s claimed properly.