Can I Deduct Expenses Against Royalty Income? + FAQs

Yes – U.S. taxpayers can deduct ordinary and necessary expenses against their royalty income.

In general, if you earn royalties from something you created or own, you are allowed to write off the costs that helped you generate that income. How you report the income and deductions depends on whether the royalties come from a passive source or an active business.

Typically, royalties are reported on either Schedule E (for passive royalty or rental income) or Schedule C (for self-employed business income). On both schedules, you subtract related expenses from your royalty earnings so that you’re taxed only on the net profit. This key rule lets authors, musicians, inventors, landlords and others avoid paying tax on gross income and instead pay on the income after expenses, as long as those expenses are directly tied to earning the royalty and are considered “ordinary and necessary.”

“Ordinary and necessary” expenses are basically the everyday costs that are common, accepted, and helpful in your line of work. For example, an author can deduct the cost of editing, marketing, or research materials because those are normal costs in writing a book. A musician can deduct studio recording fees or instrument costs related to producing a song. These expenses reduce the taxable royalty income. Passive royalty income (like royalties from an investment or from creative work you’re no longer actively doing) goes on Schedule E, where you still can deduct related expenses (for instance, an inventor licensing a patent can deduct legal fees or patent maintenance costs).

Business royalty income (from an active trade or business like ongoing writing, music production, software development, etc.) is reported on Schedule C, where you list all your business expenses to reduce the profit. Either way, the IRS allows you to offset royalty income with the costs of producing that income. The critical point is to classify the income correctly: if it’s business income, you can deduct a broad range of business expenses and the net profit may be subject to self-employment tax; if it’s passive royalty income, you deduct expenses on Schedule E and the net is treated like investment or rental income (not subject to self-employment tax). In summary, yes, you can deduct expenses against royalty income – you just need to follow the proper reporting rules based on whether it’s passive income or part of your business. This ensures you only pay tax on your true earnings after expenses.

Avoid These Costly Mistakes 🔥

When deducting expenses against royalty income, creators and royalty recipients often slip up in ways that can cost them dearly. Avoid these common mistakes:

  • 🔥 Misclassifying Your Royalty Income: Don’t report your income on the wrong schedule. For example, reporting active business royalties on Schedule E (passive) or putting passive royalties on Schedule C can lead to incorrect taxes. If you’re actively writing books, composing music, or developing software as a business, that royalty income belongs on Schedule C (and is subject to self-employment tax). Conversely, if you just collect royalties from an old patent or book and aren’t actively in that trade, use Schedule E. Misclassification can result in paying unnecessary taxes or facing IRS corrections later.
  • 🔥 Forgetting to Deduct Eligible Expenses: Some taxpayers leave money on the table by not deducting all the costs they are entitled to. Remember that any expense that is ordinary and necessary to produce your royalty income can be written off. If you’re an author, this could include editorial fees, marketing, office supplies, or agent commissions. Musicians can deduct recording studio time, instrument purchases, travel to gigs, and even music software. Landlords or mineral rights owners can deduct property taxes, insurance, maintenance, or drilling costs related to royalty-producing property. Make sure you claim these expenses – failing to deduct legitimate costs means you’ll overpay on taxes.
  • 🔥 Mixing Personal and Business Expenses: A costly mistake is trying to deduct personal expenses as though they were business expenses. Only costs directly related to your royalty activity are deductible. For instance, a novelist can’t deduct the family vacation just because they brainstormed a story idea on the beach, and a songwriter can’t write off a personal guitar bought for fun. Keep clear records and separate accounts if possible. If you intermingle personal costs with your creative work expenses, you risk losing deductions (and could face IRS penalties for improper write-offs). Always ask: “Was this expense necessary for me to earn my royalty income?” If not, don’t deduct it.
  • 🔥 Ignoring the Hobby Loss Rule: If you treat your creative endeavor as a hobby rather than a for-profit business, the IRS might disallow deductions beyond your royalty income. A costly blunder is failing to show a profit motive. For example, if you’re writing or making music “just for fun” and never expect to make a profit, the IRS could classify it as a hobby. Hobby income is taxable, but you cannot deduct losses from it. To avoid this, operate in a businesslike manner: keep good records, attempt to market your work, and show that you’re trying to profit. Otherwise, expenses beyond your income could be denied, and you’ll be stuck with the tax bill on gross royalties.
  • 🔥 Overlooking State Tax Obligations: Many creators focus only on federal taxes and forget about state taxes – a mistake that can lead to penalties. If you earn royalties from sources in different states (for example, oil royalties from land in another state or book royalties sold across states), you might need to file state tax returns or pay estimated taxes in those jurisdictions. Ignoring state income tax on royalties (especially in states that tax personal income) can result in surprises later. Additionally, some states have unique rules for deductions or require withholding on certain royalty payments. Always check the state tax treatment: not doing so is a costly error that can compound with interest and fines.
  • 🔥 Poor Recordkeeping: Royalty earners who don’t keep receipts, contracts, and documentation for their expenses may lose out in the long run. If you get audited and cannot prove an expense was related to your royalty income, the IRS can disallow it. Save copies of invoices from your editor, studio receipts, legal fees for patents, etc. A common mistake is tossing those records once the project is done. Keep them for at least a few years (generally at least 3-7 years is recommended, as that’s how far back an audit might reach). Good recordkeeping isn’t just about audits – it also helps you remember to claim everything you’re entitled to.

By sidestepping these pitfalls, you ensure that you maximize your deductions legally and keep more of your royalty income in your own pocket. Each mistake above has burned taxpayers before – learn from them so you don’t get burned, too 🔥.

Real-World Examples That Show How Deductions Work 💼

To see these rules in action, let’s look at how different creators and property owners handle royalty income and expense deductions. Below are three common scenarios – authors, musicians, and landlords – and how each can deduct expenses against their royalties:

Scenario (Royalties from…)How Expenses Are Deducted
Author of a Book
Active writer earning book royalties
Treated as Business Income (Schedule C): Suppose an author writes novels for a living. She receives royalties from her publisher. Because writing is her trade, she reports the income on Schedule C as self-employed earnings. She deducts all ordinary and necessary writing expenses – for example, the cost of a professional editor, cover design fees, marketing and advertising costs, a dedicated laptop for writing, and travel to book signings or literary conferences. These expenses directly offset her royalty income. If she earned $50,000 in royalties and had $15,000 of related expenses, she only pays tax on the $35,000 net profit. Her net profit is also subject to self-employment tax (since it’s business income). If, however, she was a one-time author who isn’t actively writing new material, the IRS might consider her royalties passive – in that case, she would use Schedule E and still deduct necessary expenses like an agent’s commission or mailing costs, but the net income wouldn’t face self-employment tax.
Musician (Songwriter or Performer)
Royalties from music, streaming, etc.
Business Income if Active (Schedule C): Consider a songwriter who actively composes music and performs. He receives royalty checks from a music licensing company (for streaming, radio play, etc.). He’s running a small music business, so he files Schedule C. Against his royalty earnings, he deducts music-related business expenses: studio recording fees, payments to session musicians, music software subscriptions, instrument purchases and maintenance, travel and lodging for touring or concerts, promotional costs, and membership dues to professional organizations (like ASCAP/BMI). These ordinary costs of being a musician reduce his taxable royalty income. For example, $20,000 in royalties minus $12,000 of expenses (for studio time, instrument depreciation, and concert travel) means he’s taxed on only $8,000 profit. That profit is subject to income tax and self-employment tax. If this musician stops writing new songs and just collects royalties on old hits, those royalties might shift to Schedule E (passive). On Schedule E, he could still deduct ongoing expenses like an agent’s commission or legal fees to protect his music catalog, but any net loss might be deferred under passive activity rules.
Landlord (Rental or Mineral Rights Owner)
Royalties or rental income from property
Passive Income (Schedule E): A landowner leases out land to an oil company and receives oil royalties, or a landlord rents out a building. Rental and royalty income from property are typically reported on Schedule E as passive income. Take a landowner in Texas who gets $10,000 in oil royalties from wells on her land. She can deduct expenses like severance taxes (state taxes on resource extraction), any legal or accounting fees for managing the lease, and depletion (a deduction for the decreasing oil reserves, much like depreciation). If she incurred $3,000 in relevant expenses (including depletion and taxes), she reports $10,000 minus $3,000 = $7,000 taxable income on Schedule E. This $7,000 is taxed as ordinary income but not subject to self-employment tax. Similarly, a landlord with rental income will deduct property taxes, insurance, repairs, maintenance, and depreciation on the building on Schedule E to reduce the rental income. For instance, $15,000 in annual rent minus $12,000 of expenses (mortgage interest, property tax, upkeep) means only $3,000 is taxable. One thing to note: if a passive activity like a rental or royalty runs at a loss (expenses exceed income), you generally can’t deduct that loss against other non-passive income immediately – the loss is carried forward to offset future passive income, unless you meet certain exceptions (for example, active participation in a rental may allow up to a $25,000 loss offset).

As shown above, the approach to deductions varies with the nature of the activity. An active creator (author or musician engaged in their craft) reports royalties as a business and can fully deduct all related business expenses annually. A passive owner (like a landowner or anyone just collecting checks without ongoing active work) reports royalties on Schedule E, where expenses are still deductible but any loss may be restricted to that category of income. The goal in each case is the same: ensure that you’re taxed only on net income, after subtracting the costs of earning that income.

Let’s consider a couple more real-world examples outside the table:

  • Inventor Licensing a Patent: Imagine an inventor who created a new gadget and obtained a patent, then licensed the patent to a company for royalties. If inventing is her full-time business, she would treat the royalty as business income on Schedule C, deducting all the research and development costs she paid, patent application fees, attorney fees for negotiating the license, and any related travel or prototype expenses. These deductions reduce her business profit from the royalties. On the other hand, if this inventor has a day job and the patent license was a one-off deal (a side activity), she might report the royalties on Schedule E as passive income. She can still deduct expenses like the patent maintenance fees or legal costs, but those would be listed on Schedule E. The difference is that as a passive royalty, the net income isn’t subject to self-employment tax, and if expenses are higher than the royalties, a current-year loss might be deferred.
  • Software Developer with App Royalties: Consider a software developer who writes an app and sells it via an app store, earning royalty-like income (sometimes reported on a 1099 form). If he’s actively engaged in developing and updating apps as a business, he uses Schedule C. He might deduct software tools subscriptions, cloud server fees, domain registration, marketing expenses for the app, and a portion of his home office used for development. These expenses directly offset the app royalties. If our developer moves on to other work and just collects income from the existing app without actively improving or marketing it, the royalties could be treated as passive (Schedule E). In that case, ongoing costs like app store fees or occasional update costs can still be deducted on Schedule E. The principle remains: whether it’s code, a book, or a song, you subtract the money you spent to earn your royalties.

Each scenario shows that deducting expenses against royalty income is not only allowed but essential for fair taxation. The key is determining whether you are running a business or simply receiving passive income. From there, the mechanics (Schedule C vs. E, self-employment tax vs. passive rules) will follow. But in all cases, legitimate expenses related to your royalties will reduce your taxable income – saving you potentially large sums of money.

IRS Rules You Must Know 📜

The Internal Revenue Service has specific rules governing royalty income and the deductions you can claim. To stay on the right side of the law (and maximize your savings), make sure you know these critical IRS rules and concepts:

  • Ordinary and Necessary Expenses: The IRS allows deductions for expenses that are “ordinary and necessary” for your trade, business, or income-producing activity. Ordinary means common and accepted in your field; necessary means helpful and appropriate for your work. For royalty income, this means you can deduct costs that are standard for managing or creating the property that generates royalties. An artist’s canvas and paint costs, a songwriter’s studio rental fees, or a landlord’s property repairs – all of these typically qualify because they are ordinary in that activity and necessary to produce the income. Always ensure an expense has a clear connection to your royalty earnings. If it does, it likely meets this IRS test.
  • Schedule C vs. Schedule E (Business vs. Non-business income): The IRS distinguishes royalties earned from an active business versus those from a passive investment. Generally, you report royalties in Part I of Schedule E (Supplemental Income) if they come from property you own but don’t actively manage as a business (this includes most patent, copyright, or mineral royalties where you aren’t materially participating). However, if you’re in the business of creating or exploiting intellectual property – for example, a self-employed writer, musician, inventor, or artist – the IRS says to report that income (and related expenses) on Schedule C, as it’s effectively business income. The rule of thumb: active creator = Schedule C, passive owner = Schedule E. Getting this right is important because it affects which taxes apply and how you deduct expenses.
  • Self-Employment Tax (Social Security & Medicare): If your royalty income is reported on Schedule C because it’s from self-employment or a business, it’s subject to self-employment tax (around 15.3% on the net profit, covering Social Security and Medicare contributions). The IRS considers those royalties as part of your net earnings from self-employment. By contrast, royalties on Schedule E are not subject to self-employment tax because they’re considered passive. This rule can significantly impact your tax bill. For instance, $10,000 of royalty profit on Schedule C will incur about $1,530 in self-employment tax in addition to regular income tax, whereas $10,000 on Schedule E would avoid that extra tax. Keep this in mind when planning – sometimes taxpayers legitimately structure activities to minimize SE tax, but you must follow the IRS’s material participation rules (you can’t just call active income passive to dodge SE tax – that would violate IRS rules).
  • Material Participation & Passive Activity Rules: The IRS uses material participation tests to decide if an activity is passive or active. In plain terms, if you actively participate or materially contribute time and effort to the income-producing activity, it’s not passive. If you just collect checks with minimal involvement, it’s passive. Under the passive activity loss rules (Internal Revenue Code §469), passive losses can only offset passive income, not your salary or other active income. In practice, if your royalties are passive and your related deductions exceed the royalties (a loss), you typically cannot deduct that loss against, say, your W-2 wages or other active income in the current year.
    • The loss is suspended and carried forward to offset future passive income or to deduct when you dispose of the asset. For example, if a songwriter who is no longer active spends money on legal fees for an old song catalog that generates royalties, and those expenses exceed the royalty income, that excess loss is a passive loss carryforward. It’s crucial to know this rule so you aren’t surprised when a loss doesn’t cut your tax bill immediately. On the flip side, if you materially participate (active business), losses are business losses and can potentially offset other income (subject to other limitations like the hobby loss rule or at-risk rules).
  • Hobby vs. For-Profit Business: The IRS has guidelines to determine if your creative endeavor is a bona fide business or just a hobby. If it’s a hobby (not carried on for profit), you cannot deduct expenses in excess of the hobby income. In fact, after tax law changes in recent years, hobby expenses aren’t deductible at all (aside from perhaps cost of goods sold) – you must report hobby income in “Other Income” on your tax return, but there is no offset for expenses. To be treated as a business (so you can fully deduct expenses and even show a loss), you need to demonstrate a profit motive.
    • The IRS often looks for profits in at least 3 out of 5 consecutive years (for activities like writing, music, etc.) as a safe harbor. If you don’t meet that, they look at nine factors (such as how you run the activity, whether you depend on the income, how much time and effort you put in, etc.). Bottom line: if you want your royalty-generating activity to be treated as a business with full deductions, run it in a businesslike manner and aim to make a profit. Otherwise, you risk the IRS reclassifying it as a hobby – resulting in lost deductions and back taxes on disallowed losses.
  • Depreciation, Depletion, and Amortization: Not all expenses can be deducted in full in the year paid – some must be capitalized and deducted over time. The IRS requires spreading out the cost of assets that produce royalties over their useful life. For example, if you bought a large piece of equipment for your music studio or purchased the rights to a catalog of songs, you generally depreciate or amortize those costs over multiple years rather than expensing all at once. An author who pays a lump sum to buy illustration rights for a book series might have to amortize that cost over the expected royalty-earning life.
    • Similarly, if you’re receiving royalties from oil, gas, or mineral interests, you can take a depletion deduction each year to account for the resource being used up – the IRS provides formulas (cost depletion or percentage depletion) for this. The key rule here: capitalize big costs that create long-term value (like intellectual property, equipment, or drilling costs) and deduct them gradually, as per IRS guidelines. Deducting them all at once would violate tax rules and could be disallowed in an audit. Know the difference between immediate expenses and capital expenditures in your royalty venture.
  • No Double Dipping or Personal Allocation: The IRS won’t let you deduct an expense twice or deduct personal expenses as business. If you have an expense that partly relates to royalties and partly to personal use, you must allocate it reasonably. For example, if you use your home internet 50% for writing (royalty business) and 50% for personal, you should only deduct half the cost as a business expense. Likewise, if you drive your car for business (say, to travel to a book signing or a studio session), you can deduct the mileage or a portion of auto expenses, but not for personal drives. Keep logs and only deduct the business-use percentage. And never try to deduct an expense that was already reimbursed or paid by someone else (for instance, if your publisher reimburses your travel, you can’t also deduct it). These IRS rules ensure fairness – you get deductions for what you truly spend on producing income, nothing more.
  • 1099 Forms and Reporting: Typically, if you receive royalty payments, the payer will issue you a Form 1099-MISC (Miscellaneous Income) at year-end, showing the amount in the royalty box (Box 2 on the 1099-MISC). The IRS gets a copy too. One rule to note: even if you don’t receive a 1099 (for example, if you earned less than $10 in royalties or the payer didn’t send it), you are still required to report all royalty income. The IRS considers all royalties taxable (unless specifically exempted by law, which is rare). Always report the full amount of income and then claim your deductions. Not reporting income because a form was missing is against IRS rules and can lead to penalties. Additionally, if your royalties come through a partnership, trust, or S-corporation, you might get a Schedule K-1 reporting your share of royalty income and deductions. Follow those forms carefully – the IRS matches them to your return.
  • Documentation and Substantiation: The IRS requires you to substantiate your deductions. This means keep receipts, invoices, bank statements, contracts, and mileage logs for expenses related to your royalties. There are specific rules for certain deductions (for example, meals and entertainment expenses require documentation of the business purpose and attendees; auto expenses need mileage logs or a detailed record). If you claim a home office deduction, know the rules for qualifying (a specific area used exclusively for your royalty-related work, etc., and keep records of your home expenses). The IRS can ask for proof of any deduction you take. If you can’t provide evidence that an expense was paid or was connected to your royalty income, they can deny the deduction. Good recordkeeping isn’t just bureaucratic – it’s your safety net to defend your deductions and ensure you get the tax breaks you deserve.

By understanding these IRS rules, you’ll handle your royalty income and deductions correctly and confidently. You’ll also avoid unwelcome surprises like audits, denied deductions, or tax penalties. In short, know the rules, document everything, and you can safely deduct the costs associated with your royalty income under both federal and (usually) state tax laws.

Schedule C vs Schedule E: Key Differences Explained ⚖️

When it comes to reporting royalties, the distinction between Schedule C and Schedule E is crucial. Both schedules let you deduct expenses, but they apply to different situations and have different tax outcomes. Here’s a breakdown of their key differences:

  • Type of Income Reported: Schedule C (Profit or Loss from Business) is used for business income from sole proprietorships or single-member LLCs – in our context, use Schedule C if your royalties arise from an active trade or business. Think of an author actively writing books or a developer continually creating software; their royalty earnings are considered business income. Schedule E (Supplemental Income and Loss) is used for passive income like royalties from investments, rentals, or any royalty income where you are not actively operating a business. For example, if you simply own rights to a patent or mineral interest and collect checks, that’s typically Schedule E material. In short, Schedule C = active self-employment income, Schedule E = passive income (royalties or rents).
  • Self-Employment Tax vs. Passive Income Taxation: Income on Schedule C is subject to self-employment tax (the additional 15.3% tax for Social Security and Medicare, as mentioned earlier). So, a big difference is that Schedule C income means you’re effectively treated like a business owner paying payroll taxes on your earnings. Schedule E income is not hit with self-employment tax. However, if you’re a high earner, Schedule E income can be subject to the Net Investment Income Tax (NIIT) of 3.8% (because passive royalties count as investment income for that purpose). Meanwhile, Schedule C profit is generally exempt from NIIT if it’s active business income, but you pay the SE tax instead. This means at certain income levels, passive royalty income could incur NIIT, whereas active income incurs SE tax – different taxes, different calculations. As a rough example: $100 of royalty profit on Schedule C would incur ~$15.30 SE tax, while $100 on Schedule E might incur $3.80 NIIT (if you’re over the NIIT threshold), or $0 if you’re below that threshold. Keep these differences in mind when planning (the SE tax threshold is low – it applies to even small profits, whereas NIIT kicks in only for larger incomes).
  • Deductible Expenses and Limitations: Both schedules allow you to deduct expenses, but Schedule C is more expansive for business deductions. On Schedule C, you can deduct categories like advertising, commissions, contract labor, supplies, home office, utilities, business travel, meals (50%), depreciation, etc. Essentially, any cost incurred in your business can be listed. Schedule E for royalties has you list expenses related to that income – for royalties and rentals, the form provides lines for things like advertising, legal/professional fees, management fees, repairs (more relevant to rentals), taxes, depreciation, etc.
    • In practice, you can still deduct most of the same types of expenses on Schedule E if they pertain to the royalty. The difference is how losses are treated: Schedule C losses (if your expenses exceed income) can offset other income you have (like wages or investment income), and if large enough, can even create a Net Operating Loss to carry forward. Schedule E losses from a passive activity are typically subject to the passive loss restrictions – meaning you might not be able to use that loss immediately unless you have other passive income or when you dispose of the property. For example, a $5,000 loss from a music royalty (passive) can’t reduce your salary income this year; it carries over. But a $5,000 loss from your music business on Schedule C could reduce your taxable income from other sources in the same year (assuming it’s a genuine business and not a hobby).
  • Compliance and Forms: Filing a Schedule C generally means you’re declaring yourself a business for that activity. You may need to also file Schedule SE (for self-employment tax) and possibly make quarterly estimated tax payments to cover income and SE tax. You might also be eligible for certain business tax credits or deductions (for example, the home office deduction or health insurance deduction for self-employed) when using Schedule C. With Schedule E, you typically don’t have a separate self-employment form; the income just flows to your Form 1040 and is taxed at regular rates. Schedule E is simpler in that sense – no separate SE calculations. However, if you have multiple royalty properties or rental properties, you might need to attach additional Schedule E pages for each. Another difference: Schedule C gets attached per business – if you have two separate sole-proprietor businesses, you file two Schedule Cs. For multiple passive royalties, they can often be combined on one Schedule E (listing each property or source).
  • Qualified Business Income (QBI) Deduction: The Tax Cuts and Jobs Act introduced a 20% deduction for Qualified Business Income (Section 199A). Royalties can qualify for QBI deduction if they are earned in a trade or business (not as an employee). If your royalties are on Schedule C, chances are they count as QBI (unless they’re from certain excluded businesses or you’re above income limits with a specified service business). That means you might deduct an additional 20% of that profit from your taxable income.
    • Royalties on Schedule E might or might not qualify: if the royalty activity rises to the level of a trade or business (even though passive), you might treat it as QBI. But purely investment-type royalties could be considered not connected to a business you actively carry on, so they might fail to qualify. This is a nuanced area, but it’s a key difference to consider: Schedule C income often clearly qualifies for QBI, whereas Schedule E royalty income is a gray area and may require you to meet certain safe harbor criteria to claim the QBI deduction. Always consult IRS guidelines or a tax professional about specific cases, but know that treating something as a business could open the door to this extra 20% deduction.
  • Examples of Each: To cement the difference, let’s use examples. An active novelist with multiple books and ongoing writing commitments uses Schedule C – she’s effectively running a small business as an author, deducting her expenses and paying self-employment tax on profits. A person who, say, inherited the royalties of a song their grandfather wrote, but who isn’t a musician themselves, would use Schedule E – they’re just collecting income from an asset, deducting any agent fees or administrative costs, and paying income tax on the net (no SE tax). Another example: a YouTuber or content creator who licenses their content and gets royalties from it – if they’re actively creating and managing content, that’s Schedule C. If they created something once and now just passively collect revenue, it might lean towards Schedule E. The differences we discussed (tax treatment, loss limitations, etc.) will follow accordingly.

In summary, Schedule C vs Schedule E comes down to business vs. passive. Schedule C offers broader deduction categories and the ability to offset other income with losses (since it’s active), but it brings self-employment tax into play. Schedule E keeps the income in the passive category – no SE tax and usually simpler filing – but limits loss use and may subject high-earners to the investment income tax. It’s crucial to choose the right schedule because misfiling can result in incorrect taxes and potential IRS scrutiny. When in doubt about which applies, consider how involved you are in generating the royalty: deep involvement usually means Schedule C, while a more hands-off royalty stream means Schedule E.

When State Tax Law Changes the Game 🗺️

Federal tax rules on royalties set the baseline, but state tax laws can significantly affect your deductions and overall tax bill. Each state can have its own twist on taxing royalty income. Here are ways state laws can change the game:

  • State Income Tax on Royalties: Not all states tax income the same way. If you live in a state with an income tax, you’ll generally have to report your royalty income on your state return as well. Most states start with your federal income (AGI) and then have their own additions or subtractions. The good news is that if you deducted legitimate expenses on your federal Schedule C or E, those reductions in income usually carry through to your state taxable income.
    • For example, if you’re in California, you’ll report your royalty income similar to federal, and you can deduct the related expenses largely the same way (California conforms to many federal definitions, though it may differ on specific items like depreciation methods). However, some states might require certain adjustments. Always check if your state has any “decoupling” from federal rules for things like bonus depreciation or specific deductions.
  • Different Definitions of Royalty Income: States sometimes define “royalties” or passive income differently from the IRS. For instance, Pennsylvania separates income into classes – one class being “Net Income from Rents, Royalties, Patents, and Copyrights.” In PA, you can deduct ordinary and necessary expenses against royalty income, much like federal, but they have their own forms and rules (e.g., Pennsylvania doesn’t allow a net loss in that category to offset other categories of income; losses generally stay within that class). Another example: New Jersey taxes royalty income as part of its category of “interest, dividends, and other income,” and may not allow the same range of expense deductions as the IRS does (NJ does not have a blanket deduction for miscellaneous investment expenses). It’s important to know your own state’s approach – some states mirror the federal treatment, others have quirky rules.
  • Source vs. Residence – Multi-State Royalties: If you earn royalties from a source in a different state than where you live, you might face taxation by multiple states. Typically, your home state taxes all your income (because you’re a resident), but the state where the royalty is generated might claim a right to tax it as well if the income is considered sourced there. For example, suppose you live in New York but receive oil royalty income from wells in Oklahoma. Oklahoma (a source state with income tax) could tax the royalty since the minerals (tangible property) are located there. You’d file a non-resident Oklahoma tax return reporting that royalty income (and usually you can deduct related expenses on that state return as allowed by Oklahoma law).
    • Then, New York would tax your worldwide income including that royalty – however, New York would give you a credit for taxes paid to Oklahoma on that income, to prevent double taxation. The mechanics vary by state, but the general rule is: income is taxable by the source state and your resident state, with a credit to avoid double tax. Why does this matter for deductions? Because each state may allow different deductions. The source state might disallow something you deducted federally, increasing tax there, and the resident state might or might not allow a full credit if the discrepancy is due to differing tax bases. It gets complex, but be aware: earning royalties across state lines might mean extra filings and attention to each state’s deduction rules.
  • States with No Income Tax or Special Exemptions: If you’re lucky enough to live in a state with no personal income tax (like Texas, Florida, Washington, and a few others), state law is actually simple – you won’t owe state income tax on your royalty income at all, and the question of deductions at the state level is moot. Similarly, some states partially exempt certain royalty incomes. For example, some states encourage innovation or natural resource extraction by offering tax incentives: a state might allow a generous deduction for depletion beyond federal rules, or exclude a portion of royalty income from taxation (often in the context of severance taxes or specific industries). These incentives vary widely.
    • As an illustration, Ohio has a business income deduction that might benefit some self-employed royalty earners by reducing state tax on that income. Meanwhile, Tennessee (until recently) taxed only interest and dividends (and not other royalties) under the Hall Income Tax – meaning royalty income could escape state tax altogether in Tennessee. Though Tennessee’s tax is now repealed, it shows how state law differences can either lighten or increase your tax load.
  • State Limitations on Deductions: Remember that the 2017 federal tax law changes (Tax Cuts and Jobs Act) removed the deduction for miscellaneous itemized expenses (which included some investment expenses) at the federal level. Some states did not conform to this change. For instance, New York and California still allowed certain itemized deductions that the federal government disallowed. If you have royalty-related expenses that aren’t taken above-the-line (like on Schedule E) but could be considered investment expenses, a state might let you deduct them on the state return even though federal doesn’t.
    • However, in most cases, because royalty expenses are directly netted on Schedule E or C, they’re already reflected in federal AGI, so states automatically get the benefit. Just be aware: if federal ever disallows something (like a passive loss until future years), your state likely does too. But a few states might let you deduct, for example, state income taxes paid on royalty income (the taxpayer in one court case argued that state income tax paid on royalties should be deductible in arriving at AGI – generally, the courts disagreed, meaning you cannot deduct state taxes as an expense against royalties for federal). On your state return, however, paying tax to another state on royalty income might be creditable, not deductible. It’s a nuanced area – the main takeaway is to check for any state-specific addbacks or deductions.
  • Local Taxes and Other Considerations: In some places, there are local city taxes or quirks. For example, New York City has an Unincorporated Business Tax (UBT) on profits of unincorporated businesses. Royalty income from a creative work (like a book or song) might be exempt from NYC’s UBT under certain exceptions (NYC does this to avoid discouraging creative professionals – they don’t want to double-tax authors on royalties). If you’re a creator in NYC, normally if you’re a sole proprietor you’d pay the city UBT on your business income, but income from literary, musical, or artistic work might be excluded as long as it’s from your personal efforts (so an author’s royalty isn’t hit by UBT). This is a very locality-specific example, but it shows that where you live and work can add another layer of tax rules. Other cities or states might have occupational taxes or gross receipts taxes that could encompass royalty streams as well.
  • State Filing Requirements: Don’t forget, if you have a business (Schedule C) that generates royalties, some states require you to file even if you’re not otherwise obligated. For instance, if you live in one state but actively conduct business (like recording an album or managing royalty-generating property) in another state, that other state might claim you owe taxes on the income generated within its borders. The classic scenario is performing artists who owe tax in every state they perform – similarly, if part of your royalty stems from business activity in a state, you might have to file there. Passive royalty owners usually just deal with their home state (and the source state if applicable, as described).
    • But active businesspeople need to consider nexus – the connection to a state that triggers tax. A songwriter living in Oregon receiving royalties from songs played in California typically just pays Oregon (no sales of tangible property involved). But a novelist doing a promotional tour that actually sells books in multiple states doesn’t usually create income tax obligations in each state from royalties – the royalty is paid by the publisher usually in the author’s home state. Nonetheless, always consider state nexus rules for your specific situation, especially for significant income.

In summary, state tax law can amplify or reduce the benefits you get from deducting expenses. Most of the time, if you follow federal rules, you’re in good shape, because states piggyback on federal taxable income to a large extent. The differences come in with how states define income sourcing and whether they have any special add-ons or takeaways. The prudent approach is: after handling your federal taxes on royalty income, double-check your state’s instructions or consult a state tax expert to ensure you apply the deductions properly at that level. This way you won’t overpay state tax, and you’ll avoid any state-specific pitfalls (like needing to file in an unexpected state). State taxes can change the game, but if you’re informed, you won’t be caught off guard.

Royalty Income vs Passive Income: What’s the Real Difference?

At first glance, “royalty income” and “passive income” might sound like the same thing – after all, royalties often come in with minimal daily effort, fitting the casual definition of “passive.” However, in tax law, not all royalty income is passive, and not all passive income is from royalties. Understanding the difference will clarify how your income is taxed and what you can deduct.

Passive income (in tax terms) generally refers to earnings from a business or trade in which you do not materially participate. It also includes most rental income (with a few exceptions) by definition. The hallmark of passive income is that it’s generated with limited ongoing involvement on your part. Classic examples include income from a rental property you own but hire a manager for, or profits from a business you’ve invested in but don’t run day-to-day. The IRS cares about this distinction because passive activity losses can only offset passive activity income (as we discussed earlier). Passive income is also often called “unearned” income in the sense that it’s not a wage or active business profit, and for high earners it may be subject to the 3.8% Net Investment Income Tax.

Royalty income is money you get for the use of your property – typically intellectual property (like copyrights, patents, trademarks) or natural resources (oil, gas, minerals). The key point: royalties can be either active or passive, depending on how you earn them. If you actively created the property and are in the business of managing or exploiting it, your royalty income is active. If you simply collect checks from a property right with little involvement, it’s passive.

Here’s the real difference in practical terms:

  • Royalty income becomes passive income when you, as the recipient, are not actively involved in the endeavor that generates the royalties. For example, if you wrote a book five years ago and have since left the writing profession, the ongoing royalties from that book look a lot like passive income – you’re not actively writing or promoting anymore, you’re just receiving money based on past work. In this scenario, the royalties would typically be reported as passive income on Schedule E. They’re taxed as ordinary income but not subject to self-employment tax. They are potentially subject to passive loss limitations (though if you have no expenses beyond the royalties, that’s not an issue) and could count as investment income for NIIT if you’re high-income.
  • Royalty income is not passive (i.e., it’s active) when it’s tied to a current business activity of yours. If you’re a full-time musician getting royalties, or an inventor actively developing new inventions while licensing old ones, or even a landlord actively managing multiple rental properties (note: rentals are usually passive by definition, but real estate professionals can treat them as active if they meet certain criteria), then the royalty or rent income is considered part of your active business. It goes on Schedule C (or Schedule E with a special election in the case of grouping rentals, etc., but let’s keep it simple) and is not subject to passive loss rules. It is subject to self-employment tax if it’s from self-employment. The critical distinction is material participation – did you materially participate in the income-producing activity? If yes, the income is non-passive (active).

To see the difference: imagine two people, Alice and Bob. Alice is an author who wrote and published a novel and continues to actively promote and sell books; she’s also writing sequels. Bob is an individual who inherited royalty rights to that same novel (maybe he’s a relative of the author). Alice’s royalty income is active business income – she’s deeply involved in generating more sales and continues to write (Schedule C, subject to SE tax). Bob’s royalty income is passive – he doesn’t do anything; the checks come to him because he owns the rights, but he’s not an author by trade (Schedule E, passive). They both receive “royalties,” but the tax treatment diverges because of their involvement.

Why does it matter? Aside from the tax differences (SE tax vs none, loss usage, NIIT, etc.), knowing whether something is passive or not helps you apply the right strategies. If your royalties are passive and you have a loss, you know it can’t help your other income right now – you focus on maximizing future passive income or plan for the eventual sale of the asset to realize the loss. If your royalties are active business income, you ensure you’re paying estimated taxes for self-employment and possibly take advantage of business incentives (like a retirement plan for self-employed, the QBI deduction, etc.). One isn’t inherently better than the other; it depends on your situation. Some people prefer royalty income to be passive (no SE tax, more “hands-off”), while others benefit from it being active (they might want to deduct a current loss or earn credits reserved for active businesses).

Passive doesn’t mean tax-free or special low rate – It’s important to note that royalty income, whether passive or active, is usually taxed at ordinary income tax rates. It’s not like capital gains (where a passive investor might get a lower rate for selling stock, for example). Royalties are ordinary income by nature. The passive vs active mainly affects how you report and which additional taxes or limits apply. So, unlike dividends or capital gains which have preferential rates if certain conditions are met, royalties don’t get a tax rate break for being passive. They all feed into your regular taxable income.

Relationship with other income types: Sometimes royalties get lumped in the broad idea of “passive income” along with things like interest, dividends, etc. But technically, interest and dividends are portfolio income, not passive – and they have their own rules. Royalties occupy a bit of a hybrid space: the IRS could treat them like rental income (subject to passive rules) when you’re hands-off, or like business income when you’re active. So, the “real difference” between royalty income and passive income is not about the nature of the money itself (a royalty can be passive income), but about your role. It’s you who determines if it’s passive or active by how involved you are in generating that income.

In summary, royalty income can sometimes be passive income, but it isn’t always. Passive is a classification of activity level. The real difference lies in your involvement: passive income implies minimal involvement and brings certain tax limitations; royalty income describes a source of earnings and can fall on either side of the passive/active line. Knowing where your royalty income stands will tell you what rules apply and how to optimize your tax position.

Top Pros and Cons of Deducting Expenses

Every tax strategy has its upsides and downsides. Deducting expenses against your royalty income is almost always smart, but it’s good to be aware of the pros and cons. Here’s a quick comparison:

Pros of Deducting ExpensesCons of Deducting Expenses
Lower Taxable Income: Reduces your taxable royalty income, so you pay tax only on profit, not gross revenue. This can significantly cut your tax bill.IRS Scrutiny: Large or unusual deductions can draw attention. If you deduct a lot relative to income, it could raise red flags, and you must be prepared to justify the expenses.
Keep More of Your Earnings: Puts money back in your pocket. Deductions effectively let you reinvest in your work – money saved on taxes can fund your next project or payoff debt, etc.Recordkeeping Burden: You need good documentation for every expense. Deducting expenses means keeping receipts, logs, and proof. This can be time-consuming and requires diligent organization.
Aligns Taxes with True Profit: Ensures you’re taxed fairly on net profit. If you spend money to earn money, deducting expenses means you’re not over-taxed. It supports the idea that only net income is truly income available to tax.Complex Rules & Limits: Some expenses can’t be fully deducted immediately (they might need to be amortized or are subject to limits). You have to navigate IRS rules (like depreciation schedules or the passive loss rules), which can be complex. Mistakes in following these rules could negate the benefit or lead to penalties.
Possible Extra Tax Benefits: Claiming business expenses can qualify you for other breaks. For instance, showing business income (Schedule C after expenses) might make you eligible for the 20% QBI deduction or let you contribute to a self-employed retirement plan. Deducting expenses properly can thus open the door to additional tax strategies.Risk of Over-Deduction: If you deduct expenses that aren’t truly related or are excessive, the IRS can disallow them, which might increase your income retroactively and result in back taxes plus penalties. Also, deducting a lot could potentially trigger the hobby loss consideration if you never show profit. In short, overdoing it or doing it wrong can backfire.

As you can see, the advantages of deducting legitimate expenses far outweigh the drawbacks for most people. The cons are mostly about doing it carefully and within the rules. Being mindful of those cons (keeping good records, understanding the tax rules or consulting a professional, and staying honest about what’s deductible) will let you safely enjoy the pros – mainly, a lower tax bill and more accurate taxation of your real income.

Key Tax Terms and Entities to Know (IRS, royalties, IP, Schedule C/E, etc.)

To navigate royalty income deductions like an expert, it helps to understand the lingo and key players involved. Here’s a glossary of essential tax terms and entities related to royalties:

  • IRS (Internal Revenue Service): The U.S. government agency that administers and enforces federal tax laws. The IRS issues regulations and forms (like Schedule C and E) that you use to report income. They’re essentially the referee in what’s deductible and what isn’t. If you deduct expenses against royalty income, the IRS sets the rules and may audit to ensure compliance.
  • Royalties: Payments received by an owner of property (usually intellectual property or natural resources) for the right to use that property. Royalties are often based on usage or revenue – for example, a percentage of sales of a book, or per barrel of oil pumped. In tax terms, royalties are ordinary income (not capital gains), and they can be reported on Schedule E or C depending on the situation. Royalties are typically reported to you and the IRS on Form 1099-MISC by the payer if they exceed $10.
  • Intellectual Property (IP): Creations of the mind that can be owned and protected by law – including copyrights (books, music, art, software code), patents (inventions and processes), trademarks (brand names, logos), and more. IP is often the source of royalty income: you let someone use your IP (publish your book, manufacture your patented product, etc.) in exchange for payment. The nature of IP (intangible but valuable) is why we have royalties. IP owners can deduct expenses related to creating and protecting that IP (like patent filing fees, copyright registration, etc.) against their royalty income.
  • Schedule C (Form 1040): A tax form titled “Profit or Loss from Business” that sole proprietors (and single-member LLCs by default) use to report business income and expenses. If your royalty income comes from self-employment or a for-profit business activity (like you actively create content, art, etc.), you will use Schedule C to list your income and all related business expenses. The net profit (or loss) flows to your Form 1040. Schedule C is also where you’d detail specific categories of expenses, such as advertising, supplies, professional fees, travel, home office, etc., to justify your deductions.
  • Schedule E (Form 1040): A tax form titled “Supplemental Income and Loss” used to report income or loss from rentals, royalties, partnerships, S-corporations, estates, and trusts. Part I of Schedule E is where you report royalty income that is not from an active business (and rental real estate income). On Schedule E, you will list the income and related expenses (taxes, fees, depreciation, etc.) for each royalty or rental property. The net result (income or loss) is then included in your total income on Form 1040. Schedule E is key for passive royalties, and it’s structured differently from Schedule C – for example, it doesn’t calculate self-employment tax.
  • Ordinary and Necessary Expense: A fundamental concept from tax law (originating in Internal Revenue Code §162 for businesses, and §212 for expenses of income production). An ordinary expense is common and accepted in your field, and a necessary expense is one that is appropriate and helpful to your business or income activity. This phrase is the yardstick for what you can deduct. If an expense doesn’t meet this standard, it’s not deductible. For example, a guitar for a musician is ordinary and necessary; a luxury car might not be necessary for writing a novel (unless it has a clear business purpose like traveling to signings – even then only a portion might be). Keep this term in mind whenever choosing whether to deduct something.
  • Passive Activity: As defined by the IRS, a passive activity is a trade or business in which you do not materially participate, or any rental activity (with some exceptions). Income from passive activities is “passive income,” and losses are “passive losses.” This term ties into the Passive Activity Loss (PAL) rules which restrict using passive losses to offset active income. In the royalty context, if you are simply an investor or not actively involved, your royalties are from a passive activity. Understanding whether an activity is passive determines which schedule to use and how losses are handled.
  • Material Participation: The measure of involvement that determines active vs. passive. The IRS has several tests for material participation (for example, if you work 500+ hours a year in the activity, it’s material; if it’s essentially you doing everything, it’s material; if you worked more than anyone else on it, etc.). If you materially participate in the activity generating royalties, then for tax purposes you’re active in that trade or business. Material participation is what separates a hobbyist or silent investor from a business operator. It’s a key term if you ever need to argue that your royalties should be treated as active income (or conversely, to accept they’re passive).
  • Self-Employment Tax: The tax levied on net earnings from self-employment, which covers Social Security and Medicare contributions for individuals who work for themselves. It’s roughly 15.3% of your net self-employed income (12.4% for Social Security up to an income cap, and 2.9% for Medicare with no cap, plus an extra 0.9% Medicare for high earners). If you file Schedule C with a profit, you’ll calculate self-employment tax on Schedule SE. It’s important to note that this is in addition to regular income tax. Royalties reported on Schedule C are subject to self-employment tax; royalties on Schedule E are not. Knowing this term helps you understand why being classified one way or the other affects your overall tax due.
  • Hobby Loss Rule: Shorthand for the IRS regulations (and tax code Section 183, “Activities Not Engaged in for Profit”) that limit deductions for activities not conducted with a profit motive. If your writing, music, or other venture is deemed a hobby, you cannot deduct losses from it against your other income. You can only deduct expenses up to the amount of income, and even that only when specific conditions are met (and in recent years, not at all, due to changes eliminating miscellaneous deductions). The hobby loss rule is why demonstrating a profit motive is so important. It’s the IRS’s way of saying “you can’t write off your fun unless it’s a genuine business.” Learn the factors (businesslike records, time invested, expectation of appreciation, elements of personal pleasure, etc.) that distinguish a business from a hobby to ensure your royalty-generating activity is respected as a for-profit endeavor.
  • At-Risk Rules: These are rules (IRC Section 465) that limit losses you can claim to the amount of money you actually have “at risk” in the activity. For most individuals with royalty income, at-risk equals the money you’ve invested or owe (without protection) in the endeavor. This usually comes into play if you have borrowed money to finance a project. Say you took a loan to produce a film or record an album, and the venture hasn’t earned royalties yet – you might have losses. The at-risk rules ensure you can’t deduct more loss than the amount you could actually lose economically. It’s a bit technical, but it’s another layer that sometimes caps deductible losses beyond the passive rules.
  • Depletion and Depreciation: These are deduction methods for writing off the cost of long-term investments. Depreciation applies to tangible assets (like equipment, machinery, or even the capitalized cost of a creative work if it’s treated like a depreciable asset) – you deduct a portion each year over the asset’s useful life. Depletion is specific to natural resources (like oil, gas, minerals, timber) – it allows royalty owners to deduct a percentage of the resource extracted or a cost per unit, reflecting the diminishing reserves. Both terms are important if your royalty income comes from such assets (a photographer might depreciate an expensive camera used in generating royalty-bearing photos; a landowner definitely calculates depletion on mineral royalties). These deductions require proper calculation and often forms or worksheets attached to your return.
  • 1099-MISC and 1099-NEC: Forms used to report various types of income. As mentioned, Form 1099-MISC is typically where royalties are reported (Box 2). Form 1099-NEC (Nonemployee Compensation) is for payments to independent contractors. Sometimes people get confused if they receive a 1099-NEC for something related to their creative work. Generally, true royalties should go on 1099-MISC. If you receive a 1099-NEC for what you believe is a royalty, it might mean the payer treated it as a payment for services instead (which implies Schedule C and self-employment tax). The forms essentially tell the IRS, “this is the type of income you got.” Knowing which form you received will hint at how the IRS expects you to report the income. Always match your reporting (Schedule C or E) to the nature of the income, not just the form, but be prepared to explain if there’s a mismatch.
  • Tax Entities (LLC, S-Corp, C-Corp): Sometimes individuals receiving significant royalty income consider forming an entity for their business – like an LLC (Limited Liability Company), S Corporation, or even a C Corporation. It’s important to know that for tax purposes, a single-member LLC doesn’t change anything (it’s “disregarded” by default, so you still file Schedule C or E as appropriate). An S-Corp can potentially reduce self-employment tax on business profits by paying the owner a salary and taking the rest as distributions, but setting one up comes with costs and formalities. A C-Corp would mean the corporation receives the royalty and pays its own tax (and you’d potentially face double taxation on dividends). These entities are tools some creators use for liability or tax planning, but the fundamental deductions – ordinary and necessary expenses – remain the same. If you see references to these, remember the core principles of deducting expenses don’t change, just the manner and place of reporting might (for example, an S-Corp would deduct expenses on its corporate return and pass net income via a K-1 to you).

By familiarizing yourself with these terms and entities, you’ll be better equipped to handle discussions with tax professionals, read IRS publications, or simply make informed decisions about your royalty income. Tax law has its own language, but now you have a cheat sheet for the key concepts around deducting expenses against royalties.

FAQ: Common Questions on Royalty Income Deductions

Below are answers to some frequently asked questions from creators and royalty earners, answered in a quick yes/no format for clarity:

Q: Can I deduct expenses from my royalty income on my taxes?
A: Yes. You can deduct any ordinary and necessary expenses directly related to earning your royalty income, reducing the taxable amount of your royalties.

Q: Is royalty income subject to self-employment tax?
A: Yes, if the royalties come from your active trade or business (self-employed work). No, if the royalties are passive income (like investment or legacy royalties); those are not subject to SE tax.

Q: Do I need an LLC or company to write off royalty expenses?
A: No. You don’t need an LLC or separate company – individuals can deduct royalty-related expenses on their personal tax return (Schedule C for business royalties or Schedule E for passive royalties).

Q: Are book royalties reported on Schedule C?
A: Yes, if you actively write as a business, report book royalties on Schedule C (and deduct your expenses there). No, if it was a one-time book and you aren’t in the business of writing, then use Schedule E.

Q: Do royalties count as passive income for taxes?
A: Yes, royalties are passive income when you aren’t actively involved in earning them (e.g., you’re just collecting checks). If you materially participate in the work (active creator), then no, they aren’t passive.

Q: Are royalties taxed as ordinary income?
A: Yes. Royalties are taxed as ordinary income at your regular tax rates. There’s no special lower tax rate for royalty income (it’s not a capital gain), regardless of passive or active classification.

Q: Can I deduct more expenses than my royalty income (show a loss)?
A: Yes, if it’s a business – a net loss on Schedule C can offset other income in many cases. No, not currently for passive royalties – a loss on Schedule E is usually suspended and carried forward, not deducted against other income.

Q: Do I need to pay estimated taxes on royalty income?
A: Yes, if you expect to owe a significant amount of tax on your royalties. Because royalties often come with no withholding, you should pay quarterly estimated taxes to avoid IRS underpayment penalties.

Q: Can I claim a home office deduction for royalty-related work?
A: Yes. If you have a dedicated home office used exclusively for your royalty-producing activity (and you treat that activity as a business), you can deduct home office expenses proportionate to that space.

Q: Are legal fees to protect a patent deductible against patent royalties?
A: Yes. Legal fees and related costs to produce, register, or defend a patent that is generating royalty income are deductible. If it’s an active business, deduct on Schedule C; if passive, list them on Schedule E.

Q: If I stop creating new work, do my ongoing royalties become passive income?
A: Yes. Once you are no longer actively engaged in the creative activity, ongoing royalties are generally treated as passive income (reported on Schedule E, no self-employment tax on them).

Q: Will forming a corporation or LLC save me taxes on royalties?
A: No. Simply having an LLC or corporation doesn’t magically save tax on royalty income. It might provide legal protection or change how income is reported, but the royalties and related expenses are still taxable, either to you or the entity. There’s no automatic tax break just for using a company.

Q: Does royalty income qualify for the 20% QBI deduction?
A: Yes, it can – if your royalties come from a qualified business (self-employed activity), they may qualify for the 20% Qualified Business Income deduction. No, if the royalties are purely passive investment income, they generally do not qualify for QBI.